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Fasting: optional?

September 1, 2009

We've recently noticed the increase in people that either just fast out of habit or actually just stopped fasting altogether.

Most of us grew up knowing that in Ramadan you fast. It's as simple as that.

But as we grew older, we started to find that many of our friends were either fasting just because that's what they're used to or stopped it altogether because they don't want to or don't agree with it. (To each and their own, we are in no way judging..just discussing)

Society has a way of pressuring one and guilting them into fasting even if they don't believe in it, and unfortunately that is not the point of seyam. There are many different explanations and reasons why one should fast which we won't get into since none of us are religious scholars...but it is clear that one should believe in the act while doing it, not out of fear that their parents, co-workers, siblings, and friends may judge them...

Then again we really don't see what the big deal is...have we become that spoilt (met dala3een) that we can't go through a day without controlling ourselves from eating, drinking, and smoking?! We all know that if we wanted to practice self-control we easily could, and just like millions of others are capable, we're sure our spoilt asses can brace ourselves till 6...

Yeah it's getting harder and harder by the year as the weather gets hotter and the days longer, but we have one thing to say there is no reason to rebel....but at the end of the day whatever your beliefs may be follow them!

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July 12, 2010 16:29

Ice Queer said...

S:
-points and faith don't match, you will be doing it for the sake of gaining point and increasing your mighty bank account not for the sake of TOTALLY convinced and faithful to your belief =)

-The "person" who told you to catch a bus is not an "anonymous" but actually he is a respected blogger with an ID called Ninja, do you need some water? I can see that dehydration is affecting your mind!

-Again, you didn't answer me "Why do poor people fast?" and don't throw the whole I-don't-have-a-degree-in-Islam crap on me! It's just a simple question, if you say that they already fasting as they already don't have money to buy meat/food then why they don't drink water?

-I've taken the bus, metro, tram, microbus and even toc-toc and I've been(for sexual purposes thu lol) to places I also doubt u've been to before ya cool inti and believe me sweetie, I did make a "difference" LOL

Cheers!

Anonymous 1:59
Some people just LOVE the holy calculator! =D

ash said...

Oh shit, S and IQ, its onnnn! rumble in the jungle!! hehehe, oh oh place your bets everybody!!! lol, ramadan kareem ppl, make love, not war/ts!! hehehe major apologies for major goofiness. ;)

Anonymous said...

ok.. why are the first couple of annons attacking me? hahahaha

well let me tell u how i look at it again... ok i do the usual/casual stuff we all do during our day to day life (alcohol, partying, going out, guys, the works) but wen i look at ramadan (to hawen 3ala nafsy) i look at it as an EXCELLENT way of winning points with God... then again ur relationship with God/fasting/prayer anything should be based on faith... so i dont see how im contradicting myself... when it all makes sense to my head.

to the annonymous who told me to catch a bus... im a blessed person with a car that my dad bought for me years ago... and during this month i get to feel how poor people feel (and by that IQ, i mean that they dont fast they dont have the money to eat... and they sometimes starve or go to bed without dinner) by doing what? by fasting, and i guess this is how they feel the entire year- with that being said... have u taken a bus? ana akhree i took the metro bsara7a cause im a girl. but ive been to places i doubt u've been before... ive been to places that arent on the map ya cool inta, and actually tried to make a difference (thats another story completly!!!!!!!)

so yea, i wont take the bus ill actually take my car to these "places" and take some time to give back some of the blessings i have been giving to in my life..

cheers,

S,

"dude I'm sick of ppl coming up to me at Uni askin if im fasting when i have my fucking period. im so tempted to make them eat my sanitary towel. choke on that judgemental annoyers."

LMAO!!!! I'm not a muslim, so don't fast, but I can still totally relate to wanting to kill someone at that time of the month!

- bravooooo wesleeett!!!

- r u sure??? i'm a bit squeemish and ur too detailed (no offense )

- leave the PMS out of it.. its leashed, u wouldnt want me to unleash it

- i am proud darling y wouldnt i be, all ive heard is that it gets better from now (and ana kaman zehe2t, the only reason im replying is that im used to getting the last word so this could go on forever!!! hehheehe)

- trust me i wont )

thanks hun same to u, if u fast or dont,.. but enjoy ur meal ;)

(im not sure why my other post was posted twice...)

S,

- 7allo ya 7allo ramadan karim ya 7allo

- its not that i didnt like it, as i told u, im squeemish (not prude) and ur too detailed hehehehe but in all honesty, i like the way u express urself.

- thank u

- NO.. virgo ;)

(we need to get off S&H)

hahahahahaha
S,

lol 7ayati am so calm and cool ;)

-7asant and points are not that different, sweetie my whole point of argument is that If u want to fast then do it for your soul, spirit and religion and not for the whole purpose for collecting points/7asant/heaven-debt but for the real purpose behind fasting which is being less materialistic more appreciative..etc hope u understand what I mean

used to follow my blog? lol and now u stopped? How dare you stop following it? =P hehe

-haha mashi fair enough, but r u PMSing? =P

-la2 ma wesletsh, endaheeli 7ad kebeer akalemo =P

-everyone of us has his own "charity" work ;) lol

-kalam gameeeel wa kalam ma32ooool, ma2darsh a2ool 7aga 3anno! ta ra ra

-oh u r missing alot babe =P

-hehe tell me about! I believe that you shouldn't be a woman to be PMSy! =)

-tab ya kebeera(thu u r the first female to be proud that she is OLD) ana zehe2t mel conversation di =P it will lead us to no where

-haha u don't have to comment about that ;)

Wish u a delicious eftar *innocent*

dude I'm sick of ppl coming up to me at Uni askin if im fasting when i have my fucking period. im so tempted to make them eat my sanitary towel. choke on that judgemental annoyers.

Ninja said...

The first anonymous "S" seriously made me LOL, why would you lose your temper? I'm pretty sure no one's on to you, it's just a discussion as they said

I also do find you're contradicting yourself in the 2nd and the 3rd paragraph, S. Once, -to simplify- ramadan to you is a shopping mall with buy 1 get 2 or even 3 for free. And the second time, it's just about faith and beleif. And do you seriously wait for ramadan to "know" how poor people feel? Dude, change your path to work or school and go past a poor area or even get on a bus! "Poor people" have much more issues than lack of meat in their diet you know.

nice post by the way

Pax Machina said...

funny,

some of us reading this can't really relate. as we grew up a** backwards as in not fasting. only to discover it in our early 20's...

ramadan was always large dinner gatherings, moody parents with chronic halitosis; who sing and reminisce about ramadan in egypt.

to us a lamp (fanoose) was just a lamp. a mossalsal was a foray of vcr tapes filled with awkward people donning JC Penny and lottsa hair spray; distracting mother from her hunger pangs---------sigh

now we fast, the vcr is gone and people donning the JC Penny and the Aqua net hair spray discovered Ana Wintour, Louis and Carl and have suddenly co-opt english and turned it into an alien form of creole!

anyways i'm rambling--------gr8 post guys!

S well said. Any act of worship should be done first and formost out of 'alta3a'. Fasting, which has been also required from previous nations is about ta3a and all its other benefits follow. I was invited for iftat by a non-muslim friend in London. Another friend of hers, who is English spent almost the entire evening asking me the whys and whats about Ramadan & then she said Ive been always facinated by the idea of Muslim fasting, next yr im going to try it. If you reached a certain age and are still not getting it then you need to review ur entire life and ur relationship and decisions about the one who created u. Finally I d say for the sake of fairness most ppl I know do fast even the ones who are living abroad or happen to be away for studying etc., those few who dont have health issues & since someone claimed to be using one of God's rokhsa I dnt think its up to anu human to question that since in the end if that person wasnt honest it will be for his own detriment. Also, Im more and more starting to believe this idea that Islam will become 3'areeb fi beladoh and stronger where it used to be a stranger.

I think we all (IQ included) have heard enough about fasting from parents ect as well as have some working brains to know its not about feeling what the poor ppl feel. This could be one but certainly not the main or even the most significant result.
I agree with the comment about what next are we going to argue about? Not all subjects are open for discussion or our own interpretations and particularly discussing worshipping issues is useless, its either you believe (or care) so you do them or you do not and you do not care to do them. Usually both groups feel strongly about their opinions and usually none will convince the other to change their views.
Those who are not fasting either have a legit reason or dont in both cases we as humans should not go after them. I do not think there is any thing in the Holy Quran or the Sunna to support going around and asking ppl or having the police round them up. If we are told to accept ones verbal admission to be a Muslim, dnt u think we should accept ones admission of not fasting for legit reasons?!
Also, as a Muslim I appreciate it if a non-Muslim doesnt eat or drink in my presence but I wont be offended in any case and I dnt think we shld be offended if non-Muslims eat in public in Ramadan.

S&H felt its ok to censor a prev comment asking why do some who commented on this topic along with other religious topics on S&H, even bother with their opinion if they did declare elsewhere that they do not care for the religion? Im not personally attacking any one or even denying any one the right not to believe, God gave us the choice and to each his own. I am truly curious what makes a person care to stop and comment about an issue he/she already made a decision they do not care for?!

Siyam ma2bool from all the fasters inshala! As for the non-fasters, if you are muslim and not fasting past the age of 25 i think its time you take a long look and decide what person you wanna be in 10, 20, 30 years.. If you still dont wanna fast now you probly wont change that ever, (exceptions everywhere of course) and to each their own but THINK ABOUT IT. Lol eat the sanitary towel... remind me never to ask a girl if shes not fasting, ever!!!!! Good one! ;)

please dont discuss wether we should fast or not ba3d shwaya hankosh fi should we pray or not bettharago y3ny its NOT cool not to fast

"dude I'm sick of ppl coming up to me at Uni askin if im fasting when i have my fucking period. im so tempted to make them eat my sanitary towel" LOL why dont u tell them that u have ur period then although i dont think that it wud be a good idea!

hahahahahahahaha ash ur hilarious )

S,

This is getting juicy.. =) No attacking guys, there is no compulsion in religion. Those arent my words btw, look it up ;)
Lol anyone hear the term ramadan redbullers? I was completely against the concept at first, but you know it did help some of my friends who were trynna stop drinking realise they dont need alcohol to have a good time.

hahahahahaha IQ u cracked me up

-look wen it comes down to God and religion some things i do for my own good, soul, kol 7aga... and some i do to actually gain 7asanat on purpose (and theres no wrong in doing so, God asked us to do, so feen el moshkela?) fehemteny!?

- yea i used to follow it hahaha and now im just to lazy to read

- YES!! AGAIN UR RIGHT!! HAHAHAHA I AM PMSING!! LOOOOOOOL

- ana kebeera, akbar menak ya med student inta, im 26 hehehehe

- no comment!!!!

yooooo ana asfa, wa7yat maman ana asfa ya ice queer

ok.. AGAIN i will try to explain, but first u have to promise me u'll cool off first ;)

point 1)

did u read the part where i said "ahawen 3ala nafsy"? which meant that its a different way of looking at things, if the word points bothered u awi kda, then ana asfa... i'll use the words 7ASANAT how bout that one? so actualy yea, ill do watever it takes to gain 7ASANAT and actually increase the good scale... (and im sure u know wat i mean by that one, i used to follow ur blog ;))

Point 2)

Actually NO, i didnt realize this "person"had a name cause actually YES!! i was sooo dehydrated today cause i walked in west el balad to a meeting after finding ZERO parking space and dressed in black in 35 degree weather... sooo yeaa.. dehydration is an understatement!!

Point 3)
what degree in Islam? why dont u calm down first and READ what i wrote!! poor people do.not.fast. they.do.not.have.the.money.or.the. luxury.to.spend.money.on.food.like.we.do!! so what do they do??? they sometimes go to bed without dinner that ur mom/dad/urself cook for u or for that matter breakfast sometimes lunch (and thanks to the people who want to gain 7ASANAT they install these coldeers or wtv they're called so anyone can drink water for free, clean water that is- and this one is called a sadaka garya)... weslet?? ya mosahel.

Point number 4)

if by u made a difference u mean sexually then u win!!! HA-HA-HA i was merly talking about a reasearch for water pollution that actually was about to be given to the ministry of agriculture (it was my thesis) but no, u win bardo ;)

(still want to try the toc-toc, im thinking of buying one for my summer house to take me to and from the beach )

oh and for that calculator part.. i failed maths..

Cheers
S

the very first anon, whats all this about points? GOD is not an accountant! Just have faith and do good. I hate it when muslims go this prayer is 200 points...etc.
Also im sorry but fasting is really unhealthy, talk about dehydration. They should allow water. Poor people do drink water!

off topic but, does anyone know anything about gamal kharma(AUC)? i know he reads this site, and i think he is adorable.

hahahahahaha IQ u cracked me up

-look wen it comes down to God and religion some things i do for my own good, soul, kol 7aga... and some i do to actually gain 7asanat on purpose (and theres no wrong in doing so, God asked us to do, so feen el moshkela?) fehemteny!?

- yea i used to follow it hahaha and now im just too lazy to read

- YES!! AGAIN UR RIGHT!! HAHAHAHA I AM PMSING!! LOOOOOOOL

- ana kebeera, akbar menak ya med student inta, im 26 hehehehe

- no comment!!!!

-haha alf nahar abyad =P

-hmm I write for myself anyway =P but some readers like that am too detailed in my writings...what exactly u didn't like, S? maybe I'm too graphic?

-lol ok ok i don't want to awake the beast =P

-lol GEMINI, sa7? =P

Cheers!

Anonymous 2:30
Why you want to take the right to ask and comment from me? Mosh momken rabena yehdeeni wa ala2i el nour wal taree2 el mostaqeem? =) Who knows!

Anonymous 3:20
Lol I didn't want you to see it smart or funny, why you are getting around my question and not answering it? =)

Q:
wish all people were like you =)

lol @ advertising your blog =P

Anonymous 9:17
What if that person didn't comment about S&H's post but wanted to comment about something one of the readers said? What's wrong about that? =)

P.S why the "Not all subjects are open for discussion or our own interpretations and particularly discussing worshiping issues is useless" and the "censoring"?

Oh thank u

Hehe btw I knew that u'll be either Gemini or Virgo =P but thanks god, Virgo females r better than gemini ones =D

can you not fast if you have your period?

Q said...

interesting post...

i use to not fast and now i do .. many reasons.. religious one of them also i have a belief that it purifies the soul and yes it teaches patience but thats my personal belief... fasting or not fasting each to his own belief..

dont judge a person because they are not fasting or because of their reasons even if it might seem immature to yourself ... let them be.... not everyone has to believe it ... religion is not an inherit right ... some of us believe others dont ... so live and let live

this whole argument is useless ... however S&H kudo on the trend of fasting you should check out my post on religious fashion

el seyam mesh bas 3ashan ne7es bel poor people ya IQ fasting also teaches u patience and many other beautiful things.. "if it is about feeling what poor ppl go thru, then simply why poor ppl have to fast? =)"..not smart and not funny..all i know is if ur a muslim and if u believe in God then u HAVE to fast. and for those who do not believe in fasting plz seebona f 7alna mesh fahma meday2een leh!

S, if it is about feeling what poor ppl go thru, then simply why poor ppl have to fast? =)

Cheers!

IQ, just curious didnt u make it clear that you do no believe and that you are not a Muslim, in your own blog, so, do you insist on commenting always on issues related to the religion?! Im not making fun of you bas begad want to know where you are coming from.

ok... let me tell you my perspective without losing my temper (for the millionth) time on S&H cause of their annoyingly smart way of pissing the shi* out of me.

I see Ramadan as a way... how do i simplify this... of getting points with the big man! one month out of the whole entire year, one month... where everything that we do is doubled, even tripled and just for one month we get to know how poor people feel like.

So no, its not a matter of being "used" to fasting its a matter of belief and faith, period. You want to win points with God... you do what you want him to do, no question asked... it was exactly when my daddy used to tell me to be home at 10 i was home at 10 (when i was 9 hehe) no questions asked.

Sooo, to finalize my ramblings... again its a matter of faith and belief and as for ppl who stopped fasting... i think its basically a lack of faith...

S,

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